Hey James, I'd like it if you could also discuss the career path of a SET outside of Google. SET sounds like an interesting position that I would enjoy, but I've never applied for it as I'm concerned that in the future my career would be hindered as people would see me as "just a tester". (I'm not saying this stigma is warranted, only stating that it does exist).
On the topic of potential outside influencers, are there SETs in every Google location that there are SWEs? Or are the SETs gathered together in just a couple main offices like Mountain View and New York?
Seems it'd be a shame to have a passionate tester end up taking a SWE role just to live in a specific location.
Thank you for this great post! It's good to hear that transitions in both directions occur. I am curious whether you have seen SET->SWE change occur more often than the other way around?
I was wondering though, what's the ratio of SWE to SET? I know google invests heavily in automation, having read te chrome browser comic ;) I was wondering how much though.
Thanks for this series, I find them very interesting.
To Raghav: Yes it does. Being a manager is not a requirement here. However, the SET role is newer than the SWE role so there are not as many ICs at the top.
I'm pretty new on the testing career, I've just got effective on my job, I was working as an intern before so I have lots of things to learn about testing. I started to work with some testing automation, and I just want to know how you guys at Google do the automated scripts? Using selenium or something like that?
Hey James,
ReplyDeleteI'd like it if you could also discuss the career path of a SET outside of Google. SET sounds like an interesting position that I would enjoy, but I've never applied for it as I'm concerned that in the future my career would be hindered as people would see me as "just a tester". (I'm not saying this stigma is warranted, only stating that it does exist).
-Mark
On the topic of potential outside influencers, are there SETs in every Google location that there are SWEs? Or are the SETs gathered together in just a couple main offices like Mountain View and New York?
ReplyDeleteSeems it'd be a shame to have a passionate tester end up taking a SWE role just to live in a specific location.
Thank you for this great post! It's good to hear that transitions in both directions occur. I am curious whether you have seen SET->SWE change occur more often than the other way around?
ReplyDelete"Bottom line: do the work you are passionate about and capable of and the right job title will find you."
ReplyDeleteA terrific life lesson for everyone!
Thanks James! Also, at google how good is the career path for an SET as an Individual contributor?does it go all the way up to Principal SET?
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Test Engineer role? What is the career path for this role and how much automation or technical aspects is this role concerned with?
ReplyDeleteI like the bottom line.
ReplyDeleteI was wondering though, what's the ratio of SWE to SET?
I know google invests heavily in automation, having read te chrome browser comic ;) I was wondering how much though.
Thanks for this series, I find them very interesting.
Michael.
To Joe: Wow, you finally LIKE something I wrote?
ReplyDeleteTo Lilia: I can only speak for my team. I have the exact same number of SWE-->SET conversions as I have SET-->SWE.
ReplyDeleteMore to come on both TE and SET career paths. I promise.
ReplyDeleteTo Raghav: Yes it does. Being a manager is not a requirement here. However, the SET role is newer than the SWE role so there are not as many ICs at the top.
ReplyDeleteHey man!
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty new on the testing career, I've just got effective on my job, I was working as an intern before so I have lots of things to learn about testing. I started to work with some testing automation, and I just want to know how you guys at Google do the automated scripts? Using selenium or something like that?
Thank you!
Lucas