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Survival techniques for acceptance tests of web applications (Part 1)

Tuesday, April 28, 2009
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  1. MatApril 29, 2009 at 7:42:00 PM PDT

    Nice article! But...

    Why use "given/when/then" as just comments when you can make them executable? :) See http://cukes.info for more info.

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  2. Lindsay KayApril 29, 2009 at 9:24:00 PM PDT

    Hi, we use a custom Java framework on top of Selenium to do functional testing of ExtJS UIs. The framework uses some of the principles described here, particularly the PageObject pattern and a literate "actions layer".

    Read about it at http://www.neocoders.com/portal/articles/selenium-and-extjs

    Comments are totally welcome.

    Cheers,
    Lindsay

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  3. Patrick LightbodyApril 30, 2009 at 8:52:00 AM PDT

    I wrote a quick follow-on to this post about the $x function in Firebug. Perhaps you can mention it in part 2?

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  4. Tom LoApril 30, 2009 at 8:55:00 PM PDT

    This strikes me as a plug for something. You mention only Selenium, and no alternatives.

    Selenium inherently requires a lot of effort to make it work the way it should, and by allowing Seleniums's JavaScript injection to test my site, I have to code my site in a way that leaves it open to later attack.

    We have recently stopped using Selenium because it's script maintenance was more of a problem than it was worth. Getting the tool for free is only valid if it's not costing more in man hours to upkeep. We gave up on Watir for the same reasons.

    Currently trialling LiquidTest. Seems pretty good so far.

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  5. Lindsay KayApril 30, 2009 at 9:45:00 PM PDT

    Tom:

    I'm not sure why you need to code your site for Selenium in a way that exposes it to attack..can you give us an example?

    In our suite we inject the JS hooks we need through Selenese eval commands at the start of the test suite run, into the dev version, so no test-related JS is ever deployed in the production version..

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  6. Duncan ThomasApril 30, 2009 at 10:27:00 PM PDT

    The re-usability of automated test cases is the ultimate aim for any testing framework. One of the greatest barriers to people adopting automated testing is the amount of time and effort (i.e. money) that goes into creating something that then becomes a liability and seemingly in need of endless maintenance. When, if properly planned and well implemented, Test scripts/ cases are actually an asset with value to an organisation.

    This is a core focus for us at JadeLiquid with our LiquidTest framework, and is a topic we have blogged about in the past here: http://www.jadeliquid.com/blogs/2009/protecting-investment-tests-that-do-not-break-with-page-changes.php
    Duncan Thomas
    JadeLiquid Software

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  7. PeterPhytonMay 2, 2009 at 3:32:00 PM PDT

    We found that for many websites the iMacros Firefox addon is a more efficient way to record & replay acceptance, regression and performance tests. The only issue here is the lack of Safari support (no problem for us...) and the limited load test support. But I guess a Google load test is in a class of its own anyway :D

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